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Date sent:

26-09-2011

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Francois Smit

So what are the comments from the profession and the technologist candidates who wrote the September 2011 examinations with regards to the quality of the exam papers?  We as examiners and moderators will appreciate feedback every now and then.
Date sent:

01-09-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

Can't we have an online opinion poll of most to least popular employer? I think it would be quite informative.
Date sent:

30-08-2011

Sent by:

Smith

The problem is that the work that medtechs do in south africa is not taken seriously, the work that we do can simply be done by the technicians with only a certificate, so we are not that important, they only need us to fill their pockets and run around the labs like lost puppies, they make so much money in our expense, and the worst part of it is that we r not allowed to STRIKE!! is this a profession or what? because I’m so confused no unions, no growth, people who are responsible for the development of medical technology are so coward and selfish, they warm their seats n m pretty sure that they get in comfy salaries, they are a disgrace to the field of medical technology, i would all urge med techs who want to see change to start acting now LETS FORM A UNION AND STRIKE!!! we need money don’t tell me that biomed is the labour of love, what love? money is love all medtechs will in to participate write your emails on the forum and so we can share ideas
Date sent:

28-08-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

It seem strange to me that so many have commented "if they had been told the salary before they did the course.....etc.". Didn't YOU ask the questions BEFORE you enrolled for the course? How is anyone going to tell you if you don't ask?
Date sent:

25-08-2011

Sent by:

Craig

Hi, I'm almost a student medical technologist and I want to take the medical scientists route Once I get my diploma, is it possible to get further credits to become a B.Sc medical scientist and choose your area of specialization (e.g. biological scientist, genetic councillor, medical physicist) and what are the salary ranges for a medical scientists in south africa or are scientists paid similarly to med techs anyone with relevant info please help
Date sent:

24-08-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

I've been a qualified med tech for just over a year now and the question that plagues me is why should I be paying for CPD points? We already have to fork out for HPCSA fees and still spend on CPD point? I think employers should be subsidizing these fees, what do you guys think?
Date sent:

24-08-2011

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Eric

Dear sir/madam.
What do you do to save medical technologist profession? when pathologist seeing medical technologist as .....  {offensive word removed}, when they recruiting more technician to work. Thank you
Date sent:

24-08-2011

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Anonymous

Medical Technology is certainly becoming a Dying Profession! I mean really, why would anyone encourage a young person to go study this if they have a conscious??, when your basic salary btech or ND will be R11 700 after 3 or 4years of studying and after 15 years of experience R15 800?? Is that really what any sane person would like/ want to earn for that years of experience?! And then the laboratories "sweeten" the pot by saying that you will make a lot of money working the shifts that is compulsory for our profession, but really after working nightshift & weekends you really come home with R1000 more than your basic salary if you are so lucky!  Also why would encourage students to pay tuition fees, if you get Med Technicians, without the 3years of studies, only a 18moths "in-service", getting paid to train mind you, earning R1000 less than you who studied and Paid R35 000 to obtain your National Diploma! Does that make any sense to anyone??? So here is what i propose Med. Techs, we can all Join together & standup this is by far Not What WE as a Profession& as Intellectual& Educated People are WORTH!!!
Date sent:

23-08-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

Hi Dave
It may be worth your while to continue on another  year and complete your BTech. Certainly, within  the laboratory it means very little but outside of  lab technology to just have a degree will increase  your options, more so than just having a National  Diploma.
Date sent:

22-08-2011

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Dave

Special thanks to all of you who took time to answer my question on basic salary. Am currently a student medical technologist and after going  over each response, I think it's best if I exit at NDip...to you unknown if you want to discuss the joys of being a medical technologist go on we will be glad but let those like me who didn't get enough info beforehand ask and gain knowledge on what they have got themselves into!
Date sent:

19-08-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

The only topics been discussed on this forum is salaries and bad working conditions. Would it not be more beneficial to med techs if we start to use this forum to discuss interesting findings in the lab! We should rather use this forum to further our knowledge and understanding of medical technology. To all of you asking how much med tech earn, it is much more important to have knowledge of the field first. This is a field of life long learning. 
Date sent:

17-08-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

He get the same salary as an individual with a ND in Biomedical technology.
Date sent:

15-08-2011

Sent by:

Mdw

You know, I studied Biomedical Technology, and it really is a shame what they get paid. I basically did my internship, wrote the board exam (which again is a whole different debate!!) and worked as a qualified Medical Technologist for another year. I then started applying for other jobs, as I just couldn't live on the poor salary I was getting paid. I've been working as a sales rep for a pharmaceutical company now for the last 4 years, and I've never earned (net) less than R30000. My basic now is 4 times more than what my gross was in the lab.  Makes you think huh? And something else...I really loved working in the lab. Some laboratories are my clients today and every time I visit there, just the smell of it makes me want to go back. I'll go back tomorrow if it wasn't for the salaries. So it will only be the people that are stuck in their jobs that will claim that if you love your job you'll suck it up and work for peanuts....what bull!!
Date sent:

06-08-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

Dave, B.tech is not recognized by most employers. didn't got a cent increase...
Date sent:

04-08-2011

Sent by:

Smith

To Dave medical technologists don't earn on the basis of the qualification they have, a qualification doesn't mean anything in the field you only need a national diploma to practice. because you earn on the basis of your years of experience, if you have a diploma then you don't need a B.tech unless if you want to take the academic route
Date sent:

04-08-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

Dave, etc R17 000, but it depends on years of exp.
Date sent:

03-08-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

Basic R12000 - R16000  + contributions. You don't get paid more for B.tech, not 1c!  Waste of time.
Date sent:

03-08-2011

Sent by:

Dave

Hi, can someone with information enlighten me on how much (average) does a biomedical technologist with a B.tech earn.
Date sent:

29-07-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

Sibusiso, if I may add: The Nhls is very strict on qualification. Private labs allow people who are not qualified to work in the lab. Some students work as 'qualified technologists' and get away with it. How can this be acceptable? Can a unqualified dr treat patients? Or are any other profession (argitect, engineer, etc etc) allowing unqualified people to work as qualified people? We are working with people's life's, but who cares? And now why will they pay you a decent salary if an unqualified person are prepared to work for less? And how can technician and technologists be equal? Doesn't the 3 year studying mean something? I think this is something that should be looked into.
Date sent:

25-07-2011

Sent by:

Sibusiso Maseko

Why doesn't the SMLTSA. Ever visit institutions to address issues affecting medical technologist? The average salary of a medical technologist is really embarrassing considering the amount of work they do. The medical technology field, labs and along with the counsel are slowly going to fade away if these issues are not adhered to because students are changing their courses, qualified technologists venture into other careers and others are edging people not to the course.
S. Maseko
Date sent:

15-07-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

This message is for Kasongo and to all of you guys wanting to know how much medical technologists are earning, I don't know why people are scared to comment? As a student I would loved to know what the remuneration was for a newly qualified tech before choosing this as my career path. Although I do love my job I do think we are under paid. Average remuneration R130 000 - R140 000 p.a. - before deductions.
Hope this helps
Date sent:

03-07-2011

Sent by:

Vuyokazi Ludidi

@ Smith ... perhaps its time we put our heads together to find a way forward . I have a few suggestions , perhaps we should communicate via email or  something like that . Let me know what you think and we can take  it from there
Date sent:

02-07-2011

Sent by:

Kasongo Malundu

How much a medical technologist earns per month ? Do you get risk allowances?
Date sent:

01-07-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

Peter are you a pathologist? You always have this 'wise'  things to say! Don't you have any ambition? Or you are one of the few that get a good salary? Its not about the love its about being more than just someone working for a crap salary and getting somewhere in life! I know I deserve more than this! And if you just want to be someone ordinary, enjoy, no one will miss you!
Date sent:

29-06-2011

Sent by:

Peter

Confucius once said:
"Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life".
Date sent:

28-06-2011

Sent by:

Smith

@ludidi That is entirely true, med techs in south Africa have a serious problem, particularly with salaries and growth in the field, a way 2 start is to form a union a biomed union because personally I believe that if we join forces together and stand in 1 voice, things can change for the better, ones career is one's life, some of us choose biomed simply because we love and have a pure passion 4 it unlike those not wiling 2 do anything who chose it by default, we certainly have to make our voices and our existence felt, enough is enough, then change is inevitable
Date sent:

26-06-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

Typically, the people who are suppose to fight for us say keep quiet and do your work...
Date sent:

23-06-2011

Sent by:

Vuyokazi Ludidi

I  have been following this blog for quiet a while , go to any lab or speak to any Medical Technologist we all have the same problems , perhaps its time WE STOPPED MOANING AND DID SOMETHING AS A COLLECTIVE . Reality is  that  some / most of us are doing this for the love of it and yet we are discouraged by lack of appreciation be it  money terms or otherwise . If general laborers of  the South African labor market can have full representation on a larger scale perhaps its time we went that route too.
Please feel free to share your views on the matter and YES WE CAN .....but only if we work together .
Date sent:

21-06-2011

Sent by:

Ramaano

What is forensic medical pathology all about and who is qualified to do it. Where can is it offered?
Date sent:

17-06-2011

Sent by:
 

Carol Smith

This is probably not what you want to hear, but, as our Training Manager told the one of the 1st year classes:- "If you want to work a normal 40 hour week & money is the most important thing in your life, then this profession is not for you!"
Unfortunately you cannot treat this just like any other job (I definitely don't!), you need to have a certain passion (which I have!), but hopefully that will now change & your "passion" will be rewarded!
Date sent:

17-06-2011

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Carol Smith

My apologies for not posting a reply, but Kasonga emailed me directly & I answered him directly; I only realized afterwards that his email was actually Lolo's on the forum! (sent from a different address I guess!) Anyway his later posting probably answered the question anyway, but this was my reply:-
I was surprised he said that the curriculum was the same as I was involved in the setting up & definitely included more because it also included the B-tech which was the purpose of this whole 4 year degree qualification at level 8, to be comparable with overseas. (Maybe the reason for the research done!) 
Unfortunately it seems the rest of the UoT's were a bit slower applying for their accreditation to offer the new course, so can't change till that's completed.
RPL will defintely be applied - unfortunately articulation has not been completely clarified, but as far I understand, if you have at ND plus B-tech/ HND, shouldn't be a problem.
Date sent:

14-06-2011

Sent by:

Smith

I would like to thank Kasongo for such useful info, I will definitely do a btech n take it from de rather than complaining to the wrong audience for no change
Date sent:

10-06-2011

Sent by:

Keneilwe

Well said Kasongo, well said. I agree with you totally.
Date sent:

10-06-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

Ivan. Hell you earn a lot!!! I wouldn't mind. Have 10 years exp and btech and basic salary of R12 000 going nowhere.
As someone said + 5% increase per year... I DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT and love South Africa. :(
Date sent:

08-06-2011

Sent by:

Kasongo Malundu

In the  UK medical technologist has B tech or degree and there not much difference in salary with person with similar qualification. e.g. pharmacist, physiotherapist... according NHS pay scale . even Ireland.
For those who want to study and become  Med Technologist in south Africa , be honest it is the poorly pay job compare to engineering job with similar qualification.
e.g. civil engineer technician with National diploma earn far more better than medical Technologist in south Africa.
University entry requirement for civil technician is less competitive than medical laboratory one.
Medical technologist in south like complaining too much about their salary , with a National diploma in many countries you will be under qualified to practice as medical technologist.
Countries with similar economy as south Africa such as : (new Zealand, Australasia , India, china ), a medical technologist has 4 YEARS degree to begin with even Zimbabwe next to SA they have 4 years degree in medical laboratory.
My advice to medical technologist in south Africa with A national diploma: you will get nowhere with your National Diploma , you have to wait for those father and granny to retired or died so you can compete with thousand other Technologist for the post, you must consider also where you work ,race, sex . Affirmation action can work on your favor or against you. Get a B.Tech in biomedical or B.Tech in pharmaceutical science . B.Tech is degree that will open lot of horizon, door, and opportunities to advance your career in different direction.
What can I do with B.Tech?
- You can further your  study anywhere in world at any field related to study (Microbiology, hematology,immunology, public health, epidemiology, biotechnology nanotechnology, bio-informatics etc...)
- A B.Tech degree can land you a job anywhere in world without problem than a USELESS ND
- do not study M TECH is a useless degree in south Africa contest  unless you want to follow the academic route. only University of technology will employ you to lecture their student.
-A B.Tech qualify you to study 4 years MBCHB in  other countries that offer 4 years medicine, such Australia, new Zealand ,UK, Ireland , and few eastern European countries.
If you want highly pay job in America( +- 900000 rand/ annum) without becoming a doctor  a master in physician  assistant course in the USA  HELP.
Study further stop complaining be realistic nobody will change your situation unless you change yourself.
A  french proverb says :< celui qui compte a son ami dort sans soupper >. don't count on others to change you situation.
thanks
Date sent:

08-06-2011

Sent by:

Tell Me

Carol, how much do you earn a month?
Date sent:

08-06-2011

Sent by:

Keneilwe

@Lolo(03-05-2011).we earn more than nurses and police, so? Is not that we are tied of being Med Techs. We want our profession to give us  a livable income. If you compare yourself with people who earn less than you, it means you are in the comfort zone. When are you going to climb the hierarchy of life? 20 yrs in a field and earn R230 000 annually. This doesn't give you room of upgrading you life. We work to better our lives. If you acquire more degrees you should get something in return. No point of waiting for 5% annual increase.

If we further our studies and get paid accordingly. we all or most going to strive for bettering yourself academically and in return making our profession VISIBLE

Date sent:

08-06-2011

Sent by:

Ivan

I have Phd MedTech since 2003 and I net R22 000.I did Phd because I love my job, But the reality is  love of a job doesn't pay bills. I am now studying part time first year, with my research in four years time with my new Diploma I will be earning more than what I would be getting in 4 yrs to come as Phd Lab Manager. I lived long enough in hope that medical technology will payoff. It didn't.
Date sent:

07-06-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

My lab manager told me today that if i complain about my salary I can get a writing warning! Great!!! So much for 'freedom to speak'
Date sent:

06-06-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

Dear unknown. Please reconsider. You can go study for a PA and get a much better salary! Don't waste your time and money!
Date sent:

05-06-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

If it wasn't for money, why are we all working? Will much rather be a 'stay at home mommy!' money is the Only reason we are working!!!
Date sent:

04-06-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

Hi I'm considering taken med technology as a career n want as much info as possible, like annual salary of a medical technologist
Date sent:

04-06-2011

Sent by:

Thisnthat

Same high salary ....Chris, I don t think most techs are asking for a  high salary , just a liveable one.
From a previous posting on this site that made reference to an article on Wikipedia, it is clear that the main reason technologists are poorly paid is BECAUSE of a lack of visibility of the profession. This begs the question,  Why are those who are representing us (SMLTSA) not doing more to promote us? . Besides the odd open day at university or invite to a local high school, I m not aware that the profession is being promoted to increase visibility in the public eye. But then again, maybe we are responsible for doing this too and not the society. AND just a note about education, I know of a technologist who went to their  boss  after completing a B. Degree and asked for a salary increase, they were told that they had not been asked to improve their educations and so no salary increase would be forthcoming. I m pretty certain that this was not an isolated incident either. I don t think there is much of a commitment to developing technologists beyond the academies which some institutions use to train students through. This leads to the impression that medical technology is a dead end job. Besides becoming a rep, estate agent or following the research route, the medical technology degree doesn't t prepare one to do much else. I d like to see the basic degree become broader so that persons could continue on with their studies into greener pastures if they were to so choose.
Date sent:

03-06-2011

Sent by:

Unknown

Nkosi, so nice to now we are not alone! I pray that you get the job you deserve! We all deserve more than this!!!

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